closely, you know, it's like that old saying about you never want to see sausages made, you just want to see them at the end of the day. we're watching a sausage get made now. it's not pretty. i do think right now is we're facing two crises. one is the debt ceiling. mitch mcconnell, you know, has come up with this plan which is very controversial among conservatives, but at least recognizes we have to lift the debt ceiling. and john mccain recognized it. but even if we use the mcconnell plan, that doesn't solve the second crisis. that is we have debts that are so large that if we don't solve it soon, the credit rating agencies, as you said, talking about moody's, s&p, fitch, they're all out there going to say, there's a very real danger, growing danger they will downgrade america's credit ratings. >> the stakes would be enormous. david, thanks very much. we'll continue this tomorrow. i want our viewers to check out my blog at cnn.com/situationroom. i write about what the stakes are of failure.